Hos 12:9-10 NKJV
9″But I am the LORD your God,
Ever since the land of Egypt;
I will again make you dwell in tents,
As in the days of the appointed feast.
10I have also spoken by the prophets,
And have multiplied visions;
I have given symbols through the witness of the prophets.”

Jesus speaks to you by his prophets! If you disregard them, what excuse will you offer in the judgement?

2 Tim 3:16-4:1 NKJV
“16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

If you don’t believe that Jesus speaks to you by his prophets, including the latest one, then you can’t be complete and and I feel sorry for you!

If you only believe the Red letter words, I have news for you! Jesus didn’t write them. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote them! So much for Red Letters!

” Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

David:
I have been writing to the REMNANT! I am not writing to those who hapen to have the Testimonies on the book shelf at home. If the Testimonies have no authority in your life, then what I write is not for you!

“The fallen denominational churches are Babylon. Babylon has been fostering poisonous doctrines, the wine of error. This wine of error is made up of false doctrines, such as the natural immortality of the soul, the eternal torment of the wicked, the denial of the pre-existence of Christ prior to His birth in Bethlehem, and advocating and exalting the first day of the week above God’s holy and sanctified day. These and kindred errors are presented to the world by the various churches, and thus the Scriptures are fulfilled that say, ‘For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.’ It is a wrath which is created by false doctrines, and when kings and presidents drink this wine of the wrath of her fornication, they are stirred with anger against those who will not come into harmony with the false and satanic heresies which exalt the false sabbath, and lead men to trample underfoot God’s memorial.” Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers p. 61-62.

“Loud Cry of the Third Angel
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. Rev. 18:1.
I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to the earth, to unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message.
A work of worldwide extent and unwonted power is here foretold.
Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.” Rev. 18:2. The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel’s message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel’s message.
Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound everywhere, “Come out of her, my people.” . . . The glory of God rested upon the patient, waiting saints, and they fearlessly gave the last solemn warning, proclaiming the fall of Babylon and calling upon God’s people to come out of her that they might escape her fearful doom.” The Faith I Live By p. 335

Questions on Doctrine was an attempt by our leaders to get Babylon to accept us as one of them! Question — Did Questions on Doctrine fulfill our mission, — or is it possibly the Omega of apostasy that Ellen White warned us about? Can it be said of Leroy Froom, that he “fearlessly gave the last solemn warning”?

Did you know that Ellen White eventually gave up on trying to get the MINISTERS to accept the light?

“When I have been made to pass over the history of the Jewish nation and have seen where they stumbled because they did not walk in the light, I have been led to realize where we as a people would be led if we refuse the light God would give us. Eyes have ye but ye see not; ears, but ye hear not. Now, brethren, light has come to us and we want to be where we can grasp it, and God will lead us out one by one to Him. I see your danger and I want to warn you. {1888 152.5}
Now, this is the last ministers’ meeting we will have unless you wish to meet together yourselves. If the ministers will not receive the light, I want to give the people a chance; perhaps they may receive it. God did not raise me up to come across the plains to speak to you and you sit here to question His message and question whether Sister White is the same as she used to be in years gone by. I have in many things gone way back and given you that which was given me in years past, because then you acknowledged that Sister White was right. But somehow it has changed now, and Sister White is different. Just like the Jewish nation.” The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials P. 152.6

Remember —- those who do not accept the Spirit of Prophecy (believe, practice, and teach it) cannot possibly be the Remnant of Bible Prophecy! Christ’s sheep hear his voice and follow him. Beware — there are wolves in sheep’s clothing among us!

Let’s start with the Trinity. How many inspired statements do you have on the Trinity? Not one! Not in the Bible or the Spirit of Prophecy!

“In the commission to His disciples, Christ not only outlined their work, but gave them their message. Teach the people, He said, “to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.” The disciples were to teach what Christ had taught. That which He had spoken, not only in person, but through all the prophets and teachers of the Old Testament, is here included. Human teaching is shut out. There is no place for tradition, for man’s theories and conclusions, or for church legislation. No laws ordained by ecclesiastical authority are included in the commission. None of these are Christ’s servants to teach. “The law and the prophets,” with the record of His own words and deeds, are the treasure committed to the disciples to be given to the world. Christ’s name is their watchword, their badge of distinction, their bond of union, the authority for their course of action, and the source of their success. Nothing that does not bear His superscription is to be recognized in His kingdom.” {DA 826.1}

It is interesting to me that the Adventist leaders thought that the Pioneers were wrong and the Babylonian churches were right!

Next “Do you take Ellen White’s writings to be an addition to Scripture?” What is wrong with our leaders? Was Ellen White a Prophet? Are her writings inspired? Was Isaiah and addition to scripture? Were Paul’s letters an addition to scripture? Yes! Inspiration did not end with the Bible! Yes, Ellen White is an addition to scripture! Why not tell the truth?

What about the Sabbath and Salvation by Grace? What is Salvation? The Babylonians think that salvation is a fire escape that they can have while they are still sinning! Can you loose your salvation over the Sabbath? Can you loose your salvation over eating a fruit? Ask Adam and Eve! What is it that you need to be saved from anyway? Why not ask the Babylonians if you can continue commiting adultery and be saved? What if you are a hit man! Your job is killing people. Can you keep your job and still be saved? When they answer no, you can say, “I thought you were saved by grace!” Now you can call THEM legalists! Salvation is making the choice to stop sinning! And grace is the power God gives you to make that choice!

The Investigative Judgement is represented in scripture by the man who came without a wedding garment. If you are not faithful till the end, you certainly will be thrown out!

“Salvation means to us complete surrender of soul, body, and spirit. Because of the unruly elements of our nature our passions often gain the mastery. The only hope for the sinner is to cease from sin. Thus his will will be in harmony with the will of Christ. His soul will be brought into fellowship with God.” — Manuscript 73, May 11, 1899, “Abide in Me.” This Day With God p. 140.

For those who don’t believe that it is possible to stop sinning check this out! Luke 1:5-6 NKJV
“5There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. 6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.”

Instead of remodeling our church to be like the Babylonians, We need to uphold the teaching of the Pioneers and call the Babylonians out!

Thanks for making these papers available to me, an Aussie in the backwoods of Korea. It will take me time to digest all that is said in these papers. However, Jon Paulien’s paper has already captured my interest. His list of 3 unifying influences in the Adventist Church started me thinking. His list is certainly a useful one. I’m certainly glad for the influence of all 3 on his list and I do recognize their impact. 1. Andrews University. 2. The SS Bible Study Guides. 3. The Church system of governance with it hierarchy of financial and government authority.

May I be so bold as to modify it a little.

According to Ephesians 4unity of faith and the uplifting and maturing of the church is achieved through the gifts of the Spirit. Our list therefore, would do well to reflect the ‘charasmatic’ dimensions of the church. Notice also that this passage reflects a rather positive perspective as to the achievement of unity and maturity through these various gifts. Jesus Himself called the Spirit by the title, ‘the Spirit of Truth.’ Though there will always be further progress to be made in unity and maturity, the Spirit is given to draw us together. We must start our theogical dialogue from this premise. The Spirit is powerful enough to break through the stereotypes we create for ourselves and others and to bind us together while breaking down our egos and healing our fractured psychologies. The Spirit will engender a humility where the most sophisticated mind is willing to listen and engage with the most untrained mind.

It seems to me that we must intensify our strategic and intentional efforts toward world-wide unity. This is a true function of the hierarchy.

Perhaps in the future we will spend less resources on a 5 yearly exercise in self congratulation and commercialism. Rather, we might transact this important function by housing the delegates on one of our larger institutional campuses (not in 5 or 7 star luxury). We certainly have the resources to beam the proceedings around the world. Then we could use all available resources for multiple exercises in open-ended and spirit led grass root consultations with the world wide body. The differing but not separate and distinct influence of the gifts of knowledge and wisdom on the one hand and the gift of pastors, teachers and evangelists on the other are all to have their proper place together with the gift of administration.

My list of unifying influences on the church would certainly include the following.

1) The writings of Ellen White.
2) The Hope Channel.

I need a church that is as safe for the Professor of Political Science from a leading Chinese University to belong to,(this lady has just committed her life to Christ and who accompanies me to church) as for the most sophisticated Adventist religious scholar.

Thanks for posting this online!
-johnny

“Their judgment of Adventism into the 1950s was based on the misperception that

(1) Adventists considered Ellen White’s writings as an addition to the Bible,

(2) that they kept the Sabbath and other laws of the Bible as a way of achieving salvation,

(3) that they did not believe in the full divinity and eternal pre-existence of Christ, and

(4) that they were an exclusive end-time sect that condemned the rest of the world-just to name a few.”

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Well, I think #1 is still pretty accurate. I know there’s a lot of splitting of hairs over greater and lesser lights and the Bible being the highest source of authority, but increasingly many conservative Adventists are refuting the idea of there being any gradation in inspiration, whether through Biblical times prophet or end-time prophet-tess.

#2 is simularly difficult to parse; I’m not sure where the dividing line is between one’s motivation of abstaining from certain activities on Sabbath. Do we do anything to be, or because we are, saved?

#3 seems to have been dispensed with as a serious point of conflict in Adventism.

#4 is still pretty true if one follows the content of Amazing Facts seminars