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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Quo Vadis, Adventismus?&#8221; An Appeal for &#8220;Wholism&#8221; as an Integrative Principle for Adventist Theology</title>
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	<description>Re-imagining the Adventist Vision ~ Beyond Conservative and Liberal ~ Lifting Up the Family of Adventism</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Premek Bar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Premek Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the last sentence: ... we are merely a part of the whole ... I must say that it sounds very revolutionary! Keep this way!
But let me ask you something: Don't you think that Adventists have been in "crisis" since 1844? Why? Because Jesus didn't return?
I think this is a major problem than the wholistic approach. Nevertheless, I really appreciate your effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the last sentence: &#8230; we are merely a part of the whole &#8230; I must say that it sounds very revolutionary! Keep this way!<br />
But let me ask you something: Don&#8217;t you think that Adventists have been in &#8220;crisis&#8221; since 1844? Why? Because Jesus didn&#8217;t return?<br />
I think this is a major problem than the wholistic approach. Nevertheless, I really appreciate your effort.</p>
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		<title>By: GORDON</title>
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		<dc:creator>GORDON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fascinating 'essay'. It does read like you are searching for the Biblical Holy Grail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating &#8216;essay&#8217;. It does read like you are searching for the Biblical Holy Grail.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a brilliant and balanced paper! The means, to me, are more important than the ends, and mostly determine the ends. Theology should be an arrow rather than a period. A journey rather than a destination. The Japanese Kaizen (continual improvement). Evolutionary change rather than Revolutionary change. Progressive Adventism and Christianity. World without end. Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a brilliant and balanced paper! The means, to me, are more important than the ends, and mostly determine the ends. Theology should be an arrow rather than a period. A journey rather than a destination. The Japanese Kaizen (continual improvement). Evolutionary change rather than Revolutionary change. Progressive Adventism and Christianity. World without end. Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, didn't mean to click so fast.  I think it's tragic that the lay people have given up their responsibility to do theology and simply listen to the so-called professionals and let them tell us what to believe.  That is not the spirit of Adventism as I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, didn&#8217;t mean to click so fast.  I think it&#8217;s tragic that the lay people have given up their responsibility to do theology and simply listen to the so-called professionals and let them tell us what to believe.  That is not the spirit of Adventism as I understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciated these two paragraphs:

Yet another significant problem related to the present “crisis” in ecclesiology is the relegation of theological activities to theologians. The bureaucratic compartmentalization of the church over the past half-century has led to divisions between the administrators and the theologians and the theologians and the laity. Thus, neither the administrators nor the lay are theologizing any longer; they are increasingly becoming indifferent, even hostile, to theology. There was a time in the Adventist church when Sabbath School classes in local churches were the primary ground for theologizing, but now this important task has been reined in under denominational college religion departments and seminaries and such entities as the Biblical Research Institute.

A wholistic approach to ecclesiology empowers the lay to exercise its right and responsibility to theologize. We ask the theologians of the church to give back to the whole church their monopoly on theology. The current crisis in Adventism seems to be as much about doctrinal disagreements as the struggle over the seat of theological authority. Certainly, theologians must continue their technical formulations of theology. However, the theology produced by the rest of the church—not the consensus of few professional theologians—must provide the substance of what we call Adventist theology. A wholistic view of the church will awaken Adventism to the important task of theologizing as a whole and reveal a true picture of the church as a community not only of priests but also of theologians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated these two paragraphs:</p>
<p>Yet another significant problem related to the present “crisis” in ecclesiology is the relegation of theological activities to theologians. The bureaucratic compartmentalization of the church over the past half-century has led to divisions between the administrators and the theologians and the theologians and the laity. Thus, neither the administrators nor the lay are theologizing any longer; they are increasingly becoming indifferent, even hostile, to theology. There was a time in the Adventist church when Sabbath School classes in local churches were the primary ground for theologizing, but now this important task has been reined in under denominational college religion departments and seminaries and such entities as the Biblical Research Institute.</p>
<p>A wholistic approach to ecclesiology empowers the lay to exercise its right and responsibility to theologize. We ask the theologians of the church to give back to the whole church their monopoly on theology. The current crisis in Adventism seems to be as much about doctrinal disagreements as the struggle over the seat of theological authority. Certainly, theologians must continue their technical formulations of theology. However, the theology produced by the rest of the church—not the consensus of few professional theologians—must provide the substance of what we call Adventist theology. A wholistic view of the church will awaken Adventism to the important task of theologizing as a whole and reveal a true picture of the church as a community not only of priests but also of theologians.</p>
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